New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Also, you'll want to disable relative control for both of these options to give yourself the most control over the missile. When an air-to-air missile is selected, pressing the "Fire secondary weapon" key once will activate the seeker, and a second time will fire the missile. Information and UI is current as of the \"Danger Zone\" update in June 2022 which added the F-14 and Active Radar missiles.==============================I'm all over the place! 1. Once set up, it allows the player to cycle through their primary and secondary weapons, and fire them using the same bound key. I forgot to take into account the acceleration due to gravity. I'm just going to briefly touch on how to set up the missile controls. Essentially, a smart (or unskilled, depending on how you see it) pilot will simply hold "U" during the entire duration of the missile's flight, and use it to TV-guide the missile directly to the target. Make sure your within about 3 km otherwise it locks on but wont fire. Connection to the missile can be by wire or radio waves. We'll learn what missile statistics mean, all the missile types in the game, how they interact with your radar and how they are used in this conclusive guide to help you dominate the skies of high tier jet gameplay. 4. 3. Press it only once or else you'll turn the thing off with the second press. This new system really doesn't adhere to the KISS principle. I cant find it anywhere. The targeting device often features a significantly zoomed-in view which makes target acquisition easier. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. For more information, please see our Is there a step by stepmanual how to exactly lock on and fire? You're wasting your time otherwise. Operational Method 1: Standard Guidance. And yeah also don't forget to have a disable Weapon Selection Mode button assign if you want to return to how it previously was. Cycles through your secondary weapons (and enables weapons selector mode). Might help when you can't use gunner view of whatever reason (dead gunner, for example). Look at your Missile Stats. Your email address will not be published. All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. The missile would not fire in gunners view, I filed a bug report about it. 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. This view gets activated when you push the assigned weapon lock on button, and you can only see it in gunner's view! By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. That was only once. You'll need to assign key bindings for both. Once you have a lock, press this again and the missile will fire. These are the key binds you are used to using for your various primary and secondary weapons. Go to controls, settings, and search for lock on and fire air to air missile. The "Switch secondary weapons" key can be pressed to activate the weapons selector and switch between launching the different suspended armaments. Because they are only passively cooled, they are not very sensitive and so need a considerable heat source to lock onto, and the hottest part of an aircraft is the engine exhaust. speed of aircraft during attack run: After entering missile launch zone, launch missile after: 400 kph (249 mph) 27.4 sec, 500 kph (311 mph) 18.8 sec, 600 kph (373 mph) 12.6 sec, 700 kph (435 mph) 7.87sec, 800 kph (497 mph) 3.58sec, 900 kph (559 mph) 0.00 sec. ARH missiles aren't yet represented in-game as of December 2021, but we will most definitely see them at some point in the near future. And you can still control the missile whilst tracking the missile. The aircraft points a target-illuminating laser onto the desired target and when the missiles is fired it will fly automatically towards the laser point on the target. Then press 'Exit Weapon Selection' and fire what ever I selected. 2. The weapons selector, introduced in Update "Raining Fire", allows the player to select which of an aircraft's primary and secondary weapons should be used. When the missile is ready and looking for a target in the "ACQ" (acquisition) mode, the circle will blink faster and sound a tone. Don't have the jet, but still really want to try out the missile system? This is a guide on how to use fox 1's in War Thunder. The HVAR rockets are selected and can be fired by pressing the "Fire secondary weapon" key. Hence they are all-aspect - they can detect and track an aircraft from any direction. Now when I do the exact same thing, I switch from Aim7 to Aim9, exit the weapon selection mode and it goes back to aim7's. Sometimes they just don't track, even though I have a radar lock, and if the target is any distance below the horizon or you are below 1000m, forget it. Another use for the weapons selector is choosing which bombs to drop for aircraft with multiple bombs. Cookie Notice All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. 1. chillobreeki 2 yr. ago. On ps4 it's a combo (l2 & r1, I think), si may be it's a combo on xbox? By default air to air is Alt+X to activate the missiles and Alt+Space to fire them once locked. default key is F to stabilize the camera. Sometimes I'm spam clicking the lock button and nothing happens except the circle appears for a second and disappears only for it to start growling maybe 10 seconds later, when I have no target to lock on to since it's already out of my firing line since the thing wouldn't lock on when I needed it to. Then again, my key binds are all a mess, because we keep on having to add new things every patch. One of your calculations is incorrect. Throttle Axis: Left Stick: Up-Down Hold Throttle for WEP: Yes Roll Axis: Right Stick: Left-Right Pitch Axis: Right Stick: Up-Down Yaw Axis: Left Stick: Left-Right Roll, pitch, and yaw sensitivity ALL need to be at 0%. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Removing the camera view is just one of these. So, I just got my first top-tier which is the german Mig-21MF, and just barely got the first missiles which are the R3-S (through literal torture of a grind, as the cannon is useless on this thing). IR missiles are the main WVRAAM used since the onset of missile technology in the early 1950s. It does not stay with my selection. Air-to-air missiles or AAMs for short are missiles fired from aircraft for the purpose of destroying another aircraft. But here's the thing: this also happens in like a super straight line when I don't pull any G's!! By All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. Finally, bind the "Exit selected weapon mode" control, this will restore the weapon controls mode to the standard mode. First-generation jets such as the F-86 Sabre and MiG-17 were soon equipped with very primitive missiles, though development quickly advanced into this new niche of air combat and missiles diversified into many distinct types during the Cold War as the aircraft alongside them advanced, such as the F-4 Phantom II or MiG-23. Essentially, you are "guiding the missile in" by showing it the target locked on radar. Sometimes the missile fails to track the target even when you get a lock, but I think you can't see that from cockpit view (the missile reticle wobbles every time you have a bad lock). document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I haven't unlocked missiles myself (Still working on unlocking my Hueys' new armaments and that should take a while), but you can find some youtube videos on it. The trick is setting the same key to both "fire guns" and "fire primary weapon". So I unlocked the Sparrow, assigned a key to be able to switch between secondary weapons, and now I cannot fire any air-to-air missiles. 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. It does not work in SBGF, I already filed a bug report. There are 2 main types of IR missiles: Rear-aspect - These are more basic IR AAMs that use a passively-cooled seeker head to detect and track an aircraft's heat. In real life they lock on a target and follow heat sources. You're using an early close-range missile. You need to be at an angle where the missile can very easily see the enemies' engine(s). In-game, they are a potent weapon to have at your disposal, allowing you to destroy enemy ground or naval targets from several kilometres away. Since we know the max speed of missile immediately after engine burnout (600 m/s, again, courtesy of @Iron_physik) and the time during whichthe rocket motor burns, we can calculate how long the missile will fly in a straight line with relatively no drop: (300 m/s)/(3.5 s) = about 85.7 m/s^2, the average horizontal acceleration of the rocket until the motor burns out. Weapons selector mode is disabled, all four Sidewinder missiles must be fired before Skyflash missiles can be fired. Marathon. You need a few seconds (around 5-6 seconds) for the missile to work. Just keep the target in the smaller inner circle, once you have a lock, change to normal cockpit view and fire. "3/1" means that of a total of three bombs, one is of the selected type (500 lb AN-M64A1). Once we know T, we candetermine the distance of the aircraft from the target at the moment of launch: Where D = the distance of the aircraft from the target at the moment of launch. (default key: space). You are better off to change to gunners view for a quick lock-on, there you see circles indicating that you activated the lock-on sequence. I believe that this user mission is still available; in order to download it, follow the steps in the spoilerbelow: Step 2: Download the AGM vs Tu-4 user mission. Thanks guys. The thing is, you do not have to use the guidance system at all. This page was last edited on 7 February 2023, at 10:16. Update dropped today that is supposed to disable the weapon camera view for the Bullpup. Since you're in cockpit view you don't get to see the reticle, but it's smaller than the reflector sight/HUD on the cockpit. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. I still have buttons set for MGs and cannons, since I find that useful for mixed armament aircraft. - Sketching PhlyDaily made avideo showcasinghow deadly this TV-guidance method is: One other attack strategy with using this missile system would be to launch it from the ground. Now, onto some general specifications for this missile system: @Iron_physikdid some data mining and found out some more info for y'all. Without the weapons selector the player must fire all their Sidewinders before they can fire their Skyflashes, however the bombs and rockets may be dropped at any time using their separate control. Some more advanced helicopters have the additional option of locking the stabilized sight to a moving target, thus allowing semi-autonomous guidance of the missile. https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/366038188371661779. - Hosting Community Events / Custom Battles. Once set up, it allows the player to cycle through their primary and secondary weapons, and fire them using the same bound key. So maybe you tried to fire ATGM's? Or also maybe redo the cockpit as only 1 craft can pack them to have a small TV screen in the cockpit so it works then cut the range and make it so the screen doesnt tell you friend from foe players will then be able to guide it to targets but its a 50-50 on if its the enemy or friendly would be a good compromise players would learn from a cheap image and make accurate decisions like in a REAL WORLD CONFLICT. In SB there are 2 gunner views, one for guns and air to air missiles and one for ATGMs. you have no idea how long it took to find this information. I don't think the missiles are working realistically. Your video looks like AB and I play sim only. BTW this is a Heli-thread, not fighter jets Its not AB. #1. If you still want step by step instructions (or if anyone needs them later on) here's what you have to do. How to fire radar guided missiles in War Thunder Hunting Fox 569 subscribers Subscribe 352 Share 15K views 2 years ago #WarThunder #Tutorial A quick tutorial on how to fire Fox One type. Do I have to switch to another view? Before I start to talk about actually using the weapons system, there are fournumbers that you all need to remember. All this makes targeting and guidance much easier and even allows for moderate changes of aircraft movement at the same time. Active radar homing (ARH) missiles have a radar emitter built in so that they don't have to rely on target illumination by the aircraft that fired it, making them fire-and-forget weapons. To begin with, familiarise yourself with the following controls: To set up the weapons selector, you should first bind the "Fire primary weapon" control. Valve Corporation. All you need to do then is just keep the missile on the enemy tank until it hits. By You are better off to change to gunners view for a quick lock-on, there you see circles indicating that you activated the lock-on sequence. 2.) Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). IR missiles only have 1 circle if they have a caged seeker, and 2 if they do not. and our It's only much harder since you don't get a visual representation of the seeker at work. If there is more than one secondary weapon of the same type (e.g. It's something I do to my series X and my 360 regularly to keep them for overheating and causing frame rate issues like this. I took a Thunderbolt and a Skyhawk out in test drive on RB settings, and I definitely could not fire my guns while I had weapon select on in order to drop bombs or fire rockets/missiles. In the case of wire-guided missiles, the wire is unspun from the missile as it flies towards the target. You're in luck; during the grinding period of the event, several community CDK data miners and mission makers managed to create a user mission with the AGM-12B Bullpup mechanics and get it working. Privacy Policy. Remember, while controlling the Bullpups is hard, they still have exceptional trajectory and payload. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Press lock-on button and 2 circles appear, I try to keep the target in the inner smaller circle and the beep beep beep converts into a long steady sound beeeeeeeeep (is that the lock-on confirmation?). Big shout out to @Gallonmate, @RideR2, and @Iron_physikfor making this mission possible. The weapons selector, introduced in Update "Raining Fire", allows the player to select which of an aircraft's primary and secondary weapons should be used. Powered by Invision Community, [Tutorial] How to use the AGM-12B Bullpup, Math, History, WarThunder, Vehicular Combat, Civil Discussions, U.S. Armed Forces, On the Tropic of C a N c E r a legitimate location. In War Thunder, this is represented by a single grey circle, showing the missile's detection cone. I am doing exactly as described in the video but the missile wouldn't fire. The Skyflashes can be fired by pressing the "Fire secondary weapon" key. I guess this represents seeker cooling time, but don't quote me on that. I understand how to fire and guide AAMs, but what about AGMs? To prepare another shot you have to do it all over again. -4. You need to lock your target in the circle and then launch AAM. 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. Hi, since there's no way to testflight drones, maybe someone around here can help me Do you notice that when you go to camera view there is 1 small little box at the middle? I can here some strange noise like beep beep and I push the lock on button but nothing locks on??? These are the keys you will use to cycle through your primary and secondary weapons, so bind them to something which will be accessible during flight. Your email address will not be published. I have been able to hit targets in game (and in test flight) and seen it used against teammates in game as well..so it does work..but maybe not consistently. What has changed? We've learnt about the 4 different types - how they work, how to fire them, and how to best use each of them. In the example below, the Spitfire Mk IIb has both 7.7 mm machine guns and 20 mm cannons. Military aviation, Japanese arms and armour, nature, - Military Aviation from WWII - Present Exactly. It is recommended to check your surroundings and ensure that there are no enemies in the vicinity, as it can be significantly more difficult to attempt to control both missile and aircraft at the same time. Because your radar is pointing forwards, you essentially guide the missile by pointing your aircraft directly at the target. Go to Controls -> Aircraft -> Weaponry, and scroll down to yaw/pitch axis for aimweapons (shown below). However, unless things are different in actual battles I did manage to use missiles on Test Flight in SB difficulty. Most aircraft able to carry SARH missiles can carry IR missiles too, so press "Switch between primary weapons" to toggle between your heatseekers and radar guides. It moves clockwise around the circle, and it shows the strength of the radar waves reflecting off the target - the more complete the circle, the stronger the signal. if you have bombs on Space Bar, one could assign "Fire Secondary Weapon" also to Space Bar, because as said, whatever weapon firing it normally is assigned to will be overridden while in Weapon Selection Mode. My options basically make your PS4 controller a Model Airplane controller. I'll update the post once it's fixed. Avg. Without steering input from the player, the missile will behave like a simple unguided rocket. Just look at my bug report (documented bug reports), there is a video which shows exactly what I am doing. Don't worry about your aircraft; once you're holding "U," the aircraft will automatically level itself out and fly in a straight line until the missile impacts or you stop holding "U." Often an additional targeting pod is needed for this, which will take up one pylon. If you'd like to acquire this jet, I'm pretty sure that you can find one for sale onthe WarThunder Market. Just get a wired mouse and keyboard, it's what I use. This can also often be set to centre automatically on a designated point on the ground (the "sight stabilization" keybind), which accounts for the relative motion of the helicopter and maintains the image in the gunner view, thus allowing for smooth guidance of the missile even when the helicopter is performing extreme manoeuvres. After pressing "Fire air-to-air missile", 1-3 circles will display on your screen. Instead the bombs must be selected by pressing the "Switch secondary weapons" key until the ">" symbol moves to the bombs (pressing the key will cycle between each available secondary weapon; in this case AIM-9Gs, Skyflashes, 540 lb and 1,000 lb bombs, and SNEB rockets). All trademarks, logos and brand names are the property of their respective owners. Yes, that's a way of doing it, but there's still the option . All rights reserved. Though if you have a set up which will allow guns to override weapons select, that would be fantastic. https://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/867. This is the control which will fire your selected secondary weapon. Just pull off and set up another attack run. Come on, get serious, why would there be a special lock on circle in gunners view just for the sidewinder as a bug??? If your marker is not inside that inner box the missile will not launch. so point the drone at what i want to shoot at then fire air-to-ground missile? The final step is to determine how long it takes from the moment the aircraft enters the missile launch zone to the launch point, a simple calculation: Where TL= the elapsed time in seconds from the moment that the aircraft enters the missile launch zone to the moment the missile should ideally be launched. Required fields are marked *. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. As the camera does not provide any infrared information, it may sometimes be accidentally locked onto high contrast objects in the vicinity of the intended target instead, which can cause a miss if the target subsequently moves away from the area. Once the growling changes into a continuous tone you have a lock, so you press the launch button and let the missile do its job. I forward to remove camera from dumb-fire rockets and bombs aswell. Scan this QR code to download the app now. All rights reserved. Try this. So, this is what I don't understand, I make sure I go in a super straight line, make sure I don't move while trying to fire the damn missile, and I literally press fire 20 times and many times this is not enough and the missile is not fired!! So as you see, up to distances of about 1.5 km, you don't really have to lead the target that much. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). I don't know if that is important but I am in Simulator Battles test flight mode. Powered by Invision Community, Aviation, Russian aircraft (MiGs) and history. this seems to be about historically correct. Please be aware we do not claim to be working with Gaijin in any way, content such as guides, videos and images have been submitted by original owners/contributors and may feature gameplay from Gaijin / War Thunder. Operation Lightfoot (Second Battle of El Alamein), Operation Sandstorm & Operation Dust Clouds, MCLOS - Manual Command to Line-of-Sight Missiles, SACLOS - Semi-Automatic Command to Line-of-Sight Missiles. Most of my calculations were based on conversions between scale factors, so it's possible that I might be off by a small margin. At first, it's spooling up in the "PWR" (powering) mode and the smaller circle will blink slowly. This is a subreddit for War Thunder, a cross platform vehicular combat MMO developed by Gaijin Entertainment for Microsoft Windows, macOS, Linux, PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S. The weapon quantity is listed as "8/4": the first number indicates that there are eight air-to-air missiles currently fitted to the aircraft, of which four are Skyflashes (the other four being AIM-9Gs). If your airfield is extremely close to the battle zone, then you can just land on your airfield and TV-guide the missiles over to the battle zone, and kill a target. The currently selected secondary weapon is the Skyflash, and so a ">" symbol has appeared next to the AAM label to indicate air-to-air missiles are selected. 144K views 8 months ago This complete guide to air to air missiles in War Thunder goes over basic missile concepts, guidance types, keybinds, and how to use them in the game. After you've got that down, the rest is just practice. Take those both into 8.3 and 9.0 respectively and tell me what you think. If yes, which view? Show more War Thunder 2012. AB is a big mess: small maps with jets put into one place and "amazing" physics. albeit IS-7 could do 8.3.. It's not the same command like for ATGM's! It annoys me that guns don't override weapon select, I had one situation where a Sidewinder didn't follow my target, but I couldn't use guns since I was still in weapon select and by the time I realised this and turned it off I had overshot. Select Secondary Weapon (to get into the mode and cycle through): SHIFT + RMT Fire Secondary Weapon: RMT (outside of mode, I have it assigned to MGs) Exit Weapon Selection Mode: CTRL + RMT Best regards, Phil Report post Posted September 3, 2020 Try this. To use this method, start by approaching the battle zone at an altitude of about 2 km (1.24 mi/6562 ft). They'll give you a general idea and grasp behind each of the methods I'm going to talk about: This method of use will most likely be the standard method to use the missile once the method 2 is disabled (which will happenmark my words). You know how you can track bombs and rockets using the key "U" by default? 2. These missiles have a camera in the nose that transmits a greyscale image to the pilot, allowing them to select and lock onto a high contrast static or moving target. Your video looks like AB and I play sim only. Its RB. I hope Gaijin considers this in their decision making in the future. Before going any further, I'd just like to clarify that this missile system is ONLY used on the FJ-4B VMF 232 that was offered during the Operation S.U.M.M.E.R. The Sidewinder is rather poor at tracking and I don't remember having to wait 6 seconds to get a lock with either missile in DCS, but I guess that's off-topic here. After a missile of this type is launched, the gunner or pilot watches the motor or tracer components of the missile and sends correcting guidance commands to keep the projectile on target. First and foremost, I'd like to congratulate you on managing to acquire the S.U.M.M.E.R. Just keep the target in the smaller inner circle, once you have a lock, change to normal cockpit view and fire. Wait. To first understand how AAMs really work in War Thunder, let's take a look at their stat cards in-game. Sparrows also seem to be rather hit and miss (pardon the pun). 2.5 km (1.55 mi): The maximum distance that a radar SPAAG can acquire a lead indicator on an aircraft, 4 km (2.48mi): The maximum effective shooting range of an SPAAG, 7-8 km (4.35-4.97 mi): The maximum range of the Bullpup missile, 8.25 km (5.13 mi): The maximum distance that an aircraft can spot the silhouette of an enemy tank. You must first get a radar lock to fire SARH missiles, and you need to maintain that radar lock for the entire duration of the missile's flight, or else it will lose track and be wasted. Guiding the missile from a distance is almost impossible. I don't see anything like that in gunner view. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. A direct hit will usually knock out any vehicle. With theupcoming intro of Several new war time franchises competition for player base will get intense for the foreseeable future. Description. It is probably going to be the safest method of use, and the most rewarding, but also the hardest. You assign a button for locking on, wait for it to get the target and fire with the firing button you use. This is simply not true. no, you really don't BUUUUUUUUUT if people don't Gaijin will prolly decide its cuz they are under powered and buff the out of them. I found a workaround anyway, I lock on in gunner's view and fire in normal view..
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